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Disney's First Black Princess
I was on AOL checking my mail... and I just happen to come upon this article! I don't think Disney is wrong for not making the Prince black... I don't know what's up with people... I don't want anything mean so IDK...
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Re: Disney's First Black Princess
Actually.... of the six official Disney princesses - Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora, Belle, Ariel, and Jasmine - only one is of a different skin tone. I don't consider Mulan or Pocahontas princesses because they came along much later and were not of royal blood and did not marry a prince (or maybe Mulan's fellow was a prince... I don't quite recall... I know he was a soldier). There has definitely not been representation for "every racial and ethnic group." I have yet to see a Latino "royal."
I have a feeling this new "princess" is not really a princess, considering it's set in New Orleans, and as far as I know, New Orleans is not a monarchy. I find it odd (rather ironic, really) that it's taking place in the deep south.... I wonder if she'll have a southern accent. (She better.... and it better be a real southern accent - not a thick, fake, really drawn out, ghetto sort of accent.)As for Tiana being a more "African American name," I also find that mildly amusing. I don't quite understand the problem with "Maddy." I think people are looking too far into it. And if they made the prince black, what would that really teach young girls? That you must marry within your own race? Disney princesses are known for accepting (and loving!) someone who is different from them (Belle and the Beast, Ariel and Eric, Pocahontas and John, Jasmine and Aladdin.... all were opposites! In fact, Snow White and Cinderella were the only ones who notabley "married up" - and even so, they were still quite different from their prince).But I hope this is animated like a classic. I was afraid that Lilo and Stitch would be the last Disney film using classic animation. I am rather tired of this computer animation.
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Re: Disney's First Black Princess
Agree with most of what LMM says here. But although some are "princesses", I think little girls (I raised two) gravitate to the young, pretty, female face characters pretty equally and even though they may know some are princesses they consider them equal or have their favorite. DD#2 loved Pocahontas and certainly considered her a Native American princess. So in reality, Disney already has 3 princesses "of color" and it's great they're adding a fourth! Although not perfect (who is), Disney has come a long way since I was kid to truly embrace the cultures of the world.
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Re: Disney's First Black Princess
I think that article has an agenda and a rather bad attitude. I think it's worth it to explore why the prince isn't black as an intellectual discussion, but the author clearly just wants to score some points rather than explore.
And for what it's worth, I don't think Tiana OR Maddy are good names for 1920s New Orleans.
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Re: Disney's First Black Princess
If the author of that article was here I'd stick gum in their eyeballs.
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Re: Disney's First Black Princess
Evidently rest of the world thinks like us. I found this article posted on blackvoices.com with a polll attached. Out of over 80,000 votes, 73% thought that Princess Tiana's prince not being black was NOT offensive.
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Re: Disney's First Black Princess
I always though of Pocahontas as a princess because her father was the leader of the tribe, like a King? And I thought Mulan came from some sort of monarcy? I could be wrong! There all Princess' to me lol. I think people are trying to read too much into this and make the film something it isnt. Its not trying to be all political and offensive or whatever these people say it is, its just a Disney film!
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Re: Disney's First Black Princess
Yes, apparently someone peed in their Corn Flakes
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Re: Disney's First Black Princess
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Our "kings" aren't of royal blood. The tribal leaders are elected officials, and there can be numerous ones serving at a time. So there isn't like a family that titles will be passed down through. But the families are more prominent and respected. So if you look at that and kinda twist it a little, you can give Pocahontas the "princess" title, like most people do. However, I'd personally like to give that movie back to Disney and pretend it doesn't exist. ![]()
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