[dac921]

Originally Posted by WishUponAStar

As far as I heard that does NOT apply to domestic flights, only international arriving into the US.

I just got off the phone with continental and the recording states all domestic and international flights and they advise all domestic travelers to arrive at the airport 3 hours before your departure time.

J is going to hate that... our flight is at 6:55 and he want to leave @ 5 now we are going to have to leave at 3:30.

[noahsark45331]

Originally Posted by dac921

...they advise all domestic travelers to arrive at the airport 3 hours before your departure time.

Well, that makes me want to schedule a 6 AM flight
3 hours early!

[dixie]

we are not allowed to carry on anything except a clear plastic bag with passport and travel documents, a small wallet too, No books, magazines glasses cases no lip gloss, lip stick, all digital cameras videos laptops are to go in the hold, ladies can carry one or two ladies (personal) items and mothers with infants can carry formula but it must be tasted in front of airline staff. We are to be body searched at security and then again at the gate, but if it keeps me safe and in one piece over the Atlantic then so be it.

[PrincessPooh]

Well, I for one, am thankful! I'm willing to be as inconvenienced as is necessary to keep everyone safe. If they told me no carry on at all, I'd learn to deal. I don't know how new this 'no liquids' thing is. I think it's just a resurgence due to current news. Back right after 9/11 I worked at JFK airport in NYC and no one was allowed to enter the gate with anything liquid then, not even coffee or water. If you had it, it had to be thrown out at security. Does anyone remember the woman who was forced to drink her own breastmilk because they would not allow her to take it on the plane without checking it?

[dac921]

Originally Posted by noahsark45331

Well, that makes me want to schedule a 6 AM flight
3 hours early!

Yeap so if you have a 6 am flight and they advise you to get to the airport 3 hours early you gotta get there at 3 am... now here is the kicker ready...
most baggage terminals (counters) don't open till 4 or 5 am...

Make no sense.

[dac921]

Originally Posted by PrincessPooh

Well, I for one, am thankful! I'm willing to be as inconvenienced as is necessary to keep everyone safe. If they told me no carry on at all, I'd learn to deal. I don't know how new this 'no liquids' thing is. I think it's just a resurgence due to current news. Back right after 9/11 I worked at JFK airport in NYC and no one was allowed to enter the gate with anything liquid then, not even coffee or water. If you had it, it had to be thrown out at security. Does anyone remember the woman who was forced to drink her own breastmilk because they would not allow her to take it on the plane without checking it?

I don't remember that one, but I do remember how strick they were.
Now, here is my problem, what about the liquid tears I have to place in my eye since the surgery... and the contact lens solution Miss SMIG uses... that is a liquid... do we have to get notes from our eye doctor so we can apply them when needed.

I was planning on taking the gel, hairspray and etc in my carry-on, but have no problem putting it in checked luggage.

I guess the easiest thing to do from now on, is ship all liquids UPS with all my conference stuff, that way I won't have to worry about it....

[jo-jo]

I wonder if you could bring the powdered formula on a plane and mix it with bottled water that you get onboard. That formula smells nasty, I don't know if I could get a drink down.

[dac921]

Here is an article - they are throwing everything out...

CHICAGO - Growing lines of irritated travelers snaked through U.S. airports Thursday as people waited hours to reach security checkpoints, then had to dump their water bottles, suntan lotion and even toothpaste following the discovery of a terror plot in Britain.

Guards armed with rifles stood watch in several airports, and the governors of California, New York and Massachusetts said they were sending National Guard troops to bolster security.

The hours-old ban on all liquids and gels from carry-on luggage left little option but to throw away juice boxes, bags full of makeup, perfume and bottles of liquor and wine. Baby formula and medicines were exempt but had to be inspected.

"They're ridiculous, but that's part of the price you pay for traveling during a time like this," Julius Ibraheem, 26, a college counselor from Chicago, said as he stared at the long lines leading toward the checkpoints at O'Hare Airport.

At Baltimore/Washington Airport, security workers opened every carry-on bag that passed through one terminal, and all the morning flights there were delayed.

"It's better alive than dead," said Bob Chambers, whose flight from Baltimore to Detroit for business meeting was delayed more than an hour. "It's inconvenient, but we'll make it."

The plot targeted flights from Britain to the United States, particularly to New York, Washington and California on United Airlines, American Airlines and Continental Airlines Inc., a counterterrorism official said Thursday, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation.

U.S. authorities raised the threat level to "red" for flights from Britain, the first time the highest threat of terrorist attack had been invoked since the system was created. All other flights were under an "orange" alert — one step below red.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the plot appeared to have been engineered by al-Qaida, the terrorist group that hijacked two planes from Boston on Sept. 11, 2001, and flew them into the World Trade Center towers in New York.

Lines were longer than usual at San Francisco International Airport, and red plastic bins were quickly filling up with cups of coffee and water bottles.

Kathy McMahon, 49, of Mill Valley, Calif., was frantically helping her daughter stuff sunscreen, makeup, contact lens solution and other liquids into every corner of her half-dozen suitcases to be checked as she headed off to college.

"I think it's ridiculous," McMahon said. "But we'll do it anyway. What are you going to do?"

At Kennedy Airport in New York, Sonia Gomes De Mesquita, 40, waited nervously to board a British Airways flight home to London. Her family had urged her not to fly.

"You wake up and what are you going to do?" she said. "The flight is today."

She said she checked all her belongings rather than risk having something confiscated. "I even checked in my book."

At Newark Airport in New Jersey, the security checkpoint line for Terminal B, home to most international flights, stretched the entire length of the terminal — roughly six football fields — and was barely moving.

Andra Racibarskas, of Chatham, was trying to get to Michigan to pick up her daughter from camp.

"Checking in was very easy. It took one minute curbside. It took one minute to get my boarding pass," she said. "This line is at least four hours long."

As the morning went on and more passengers became aware of the ban, the long wait in security lines at Atlanta's airport dropped from what at one point became a two-hour delay, airport spokeswoman Felicia Browder said.

Some passengers gave banned items away. Airport officials in Manchester, N.H., officials offered padded envelopes and paid the postage to mail items home.

At the Burlington International Airport in Vermont, travelers weren't happy to be leaving behind souvenir maple syrup jugs. In New Orleans, half-used bottles of hot sauce lay in garbage bins. Bottles of wine sat in the trash in San Francisco, south of California's wine country.

Rather than packing toiletries in carry-ons, airport officials asked passengers to put them in checked baggage, which is screened by equipment that can detect explosives, said Phil Orlandella, spokesman for Boston's Logan International Airport.

In the Atlanta airport, Brenda Lee was annoyed with the lines and having to remove items from her luggage. The 52-year-old commercial real estate appraiser from Snellville, Ga., had to throw away her shampoo, but she said she was keeping her contact lens solution in her carry-on luggage.

"I'm not sure it does what they want it to do," she said. "It's all for security, but some things go beyond security."

Laura Yeager left four bottles of Gucci and Cartier perfume for the hotel maid before heading to the Atlanta airport for her flight back to Philadelphia. She still had to give up her lip gloss at the security checkpoint.

She just shrugged and tossed it. "It's better to feel safe. We thought it was going to be a lot worse."

Chicago aviation commissioner Nuria Fernandez said the tighter restriction will remain in place for at least 12 to 72 hours and possibly longer.

At Boston's Logan Airport, Gov. Mitt Romney said additional screening stations were being set up at the airline gates and security was being tightened on the roads outside the airport. The exact number of National Guard troops was still being determined, but "it will certainly be in the hundreds," he said.

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said he was sending bomb-sniffing dogs with the California National Guard and Highway Patrol to help with airport security.

In New York, Gov. George Pataki said he was increasing the National Guard presence, though New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said he didn't think it would be necessary.

"The nature of this plot doesn't lend itself to the high-profile police presence" that followed the London subway bombings, Bloomberg said.

Extra police and dog units were sent out overnight at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport, where American Airlines is based, to patrol terminals and parking garages, airport spokesman Ken Capps said.

American canceled three London-bound morning flights from Chicago, Boston and New York to accommodate delays at London's Heathrow airport, spokesman John Hotard said. To balance the cancellations, the airline also dropped three afternoon or evening flights from London to U.S. cities, Hotard said.

The remaining 13 flights in each direction were expected to run from 1 1/2 to 3 1/2 hours late. The cancellations were due to scheduling delays and not because of direct threats to the flights, Hotard said.

The United Airlines terminal at San Francisco's airport was a scene of growing unhappiness. Both the security and check-in lines had a number of switchbacks and confused travelers pushed and elbowed each other.

Bill Poland, 61, of Ross was headed to Lake George, N.Y., with his wife and son. He held up a tube of lip balm and shouted to a security officer who told him he couldn't bring it on the plane with him. He said he recently had a cancerous growth removed from his lip and the anti-bacterial ointment was necessary treatment.

"In an hour or two my lips are going to start burning and turning purple. And I've got five to six hours on a plane without this," he said. "This is not something I'm looking forward to."

[dac921]

Just found this on the Newark website...

Press Release

Statement By: The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey Regarding Alleged Terrorist Plot Uncovered in United Kingdom
Date: August 10, 2006
Press Release Number: 0-2006


In response to the alleged terrorist plot involving flights from the United Kingdom to the United States, The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey advises travelers of the following changes to the airport screening procedures at Newark Liberty International, John F. Kennedy International and LaGuardia airports.

The Transportation Security Administration is prohibiting LIQUIDS OR GELS OF ANY TYPE in carry-on luggage. These items must be in checked baggage. Prohibited items include: beverages, suntan lotions, shampoo, creams, toothpaste, hair gel and similar items.

The TSA will allow baby formula and medication, but these items will be inspected at the checkpoints.

Passengers should call their carriers before traveling to the airport since some flights are being cancelled or delayed. Travelers should arrive at the airport at least two hours before their scheduled flights.

The Port Authority has been and remains on a heightened state of alert at all of its facilities since the terrorist attacks of 9/11. As a result of today’s revelations, we have increased police presence at the airports to assist federal agencies, including the TSA, U.S. Customs and Border Protection and the Joint Terrorism Task Force.

[dac921]

The announcement posted on the MCO website is almost the same as the Newark one.

[chris24]

i already told my wife not to pack any od that stuff. we'll have the garded grocer deliver it to us.....

i hate when these terrorists pull a stunt like this......

[tigger]

I am bummed out. I just bought a great new suitcase...If I knew that there would be no more carry ons I would have gone a size up.

I hate to check my bag. I like to hit the ground running not standing around waiting for my suitcase to snake thru the airport and get burped out on to the baggage carousal.

I hope that this passes at some point and we get back to at least a 8/9 world.

(dumb terrorist )

[dac921]

Originally Posted by jo-jo

I wonder if you could bring the powdered formula on a plane and mix it with bottled water that you get onboard. That formula smells nasty, I don't know if I could get a drink down.

I would take the pre-mixed, but things might quite down before we have to leave... you know jo-jo.

[dac921]

Originally Posted by chris24

i already told my wife not to pack any od that stuff. we'll have the garded grocer deliver it to us.....

i hate when these terrorists pull a stunt like this......

I agree, I few about 3 weeks after 9/11 and security was really tight. I didn't like the Army guy there with the rifle... it was early too, around 5 am for an 8 am flight..

[daisyd]

Originally Posted by dixie

we are not allowed to carry on anything except a clear plastic bag with passport and travel documents, a small wallet too, No books, magazines glasses cases no lip gloss, lip stick, all digital cameras videos laptops are to go in the hold, ladies can carry one or two ladies (personal) items and mothers with infants can carry formula but it must be tasted in front of airline staff. We are to be body searched at security and then again at the gate, but if it keeps me safe and in one piece over the Atlantic then so be it.

Holy cow! A 9 hour flight with no chapstick, no books. I hope some of this can be lifted soon.

How long are you staying dixie?