Disney Future

rlander · 05-30-2003

I just remembered something my DW and I discussed last year while riding the monorail.

We questioned whether WDW will still be as great when our kids take their kids? For us that will be about 25 to 30 years from now.

So here's my question. Do you think WDW will be better or worse in 25 years?

The first time I went to WDW was 27 years ago. Needless to say it got better for me with age.

Willbegone · 05-30-2003

I think it will be better. The reason is it is inevitable that the economy will eventually boom again and I think that when that happens Disney will do lots of things. Also, can't even imagine what the technology will be in 25 years WOW!!! :wow:

neen626 · 05-30-2003

My vote is for better. I can remember the 1st time I walked into Disney as a small child in 1978!! In some ways it has changed so much, but somethings have stayed the same, and they are the charm of WDW.

wdwspider · 05-30-2003

I can't see how it would not get better. Just look at Disney 25 years ago or Disneyland nearly 50 years ago. It was great at the time and so much better now. The in betweens may have ups and downs , but if you look at the moment for every ten years prior the result is major expansions, technological developments, and many new parks and resorts. 25 years from now WDW will really be impressive, even if there are no more expansions, the replacements, updates, and improvements will be awesome.

mickaholic4077 · 05-30-2003

I agree,it can only get better. I just hope that the attention to detail is just as good then as now.

tigger · 05-30-2003

I'm planning on taking my grandkids to Walt Disney Luna :D

Better...Disney is always getting better.

brumcg · 05-30-2003

Hmmmm... I'm undecided. WDW has been wrapped up into the entire Disney conglomerate. Big conglomerates tend to be very safe and conservative...afraid to take risks and always willing to shave a buck here and there. That's not the philosophy that got Walt and Co. where they are today.

Bruce

tinkerbell · 05-30-2003

I believe it will get better .. but brumcg post bothers me a bit .. if they lose sight of what its about ..if they dont keep the dream. But I want to believe it will only get better.

DisneyAnne · 05-30-2003

Hmmmm... I hope it only gets better with time... My first visit was in January 1973 and it wasn't near what it is today. I thought it was WONDERFUL then even if the Peter Pan ride was still being built.

I don't think Disney will ever let things rundown...they are constantly refurbishing (sometimes to my disappointment) and I don't think I have ever seen anything rusted, dirty or worn in the entire park.

I hope they continue to build/expand/imagineer but even if things remained as they are, I don't think I would ever be disappointed.:D

ilvminnie · 05-31-2003

If they keep Walt's vision ahead of them, things can only get better. But if Eisner & crew get too business oriented & worry about the bottom line out of proportion to the magic involved, then we could be in trouble. Guess that's why it's the unknown future, huh?

mattomouseman · 05-31-2003

As long as they keep the original vision of Walt Disney first and foremost it will always get better. However Bruce's post does give one pause! Ah but then again the glass is always half full for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

rlander · 05-31-2003

You guys have pretty much echoed our conversation. We hope for the best, and dream of our grandchildren sharing in the magic.

But I also fear that the vision will be lost. I'm afraid that the new directors in the future will see WDW as a cash cow. Afterall, a business' main goal is to make money. But this wasn't Walt's goal.

I hear a lot about how Micheal Isner has not followed Walt's dream, but I don't agree. When he took helm in the early 1980's he revitalized the vision. He put forth two new parks and continued to grow the fourth. He expanded the resorts to what we have today. I believe the replacement CEO has this same philosiphy and we should be in great shape.

Walt left the imagineers a road map of his dreams. Sure...WDW would be different if Walt would have lived another 25 years but I think they have done a terrific job so far.

wdwspider · 05-31-2003

I just want to add these comments:

Once upon a Toy Store
Mission: Space
Philharmagic
Pop Century
Animal Kingdom Lodge
Sarassota Springs Resort
Expedition Everest
Magic Carpets of Aladdin

:D

The magic still exists in the parks regardless of corporate going-ons. I agree if that is ever lost, then Disney is lost, but it will be a while before this happens... much longer than 25 years. These items above are all recent or upcoming additions and I think several of them contain that Disney Magic we have grown to love. Remember.... "There's a great big beautiful tomorrow..."

Think about a beautiful well kept car... when New it is shiny and near flawless, but as time goes on, if it is maintained it will continue to look new from a distance, but if you get up close I'm sure you will find little dings or scratches... does that make it any less of a car, no. The internet allows us Disney fans to look up close to Disney, but when you look at the whole picture, it's still a nice, shiny, well kept car.

brumcg · 05-31-2003

Jeff,

I agree about Eisner... to a point. He was definitely the right person at the right time. The company definitely needed leadership and revitalization. In recent years, however, his acquisition strategy has made the company too big (all IMO of course!) and maybe the problem is that he has been spread too thin. Some of his delegates on the park and movie side haven't been tooo impressive. I agree - I love what I've heard about the new guy (Rusalo?), but he hasn't had a chance to do much yet.

WDWfan,

Other than the resorts (and maybe the Magic Carpets) the other things all have corporate sponsors. Would we be seeing these without that sponsorship? I doubt it - too risky. Compare that to Carousel of Progress which Disney has said can't remain open without a sponsor. Even though I'm not a big CoP fan and I understand the problems with trying to keep it running all year, it's a case of deciding between $$$ and Magic.

I hope no one gets me wrong here... I've literally banked on WDW's future by buying into DVC. But I'm a pessimist by nature... :nervous

Bruce

mickaholic4077 · 05-31-2003

Is Eisner no longer the CEO of Disney? When did that happen???

05-30-2003	#1 (permalink)
rlander Happy Disney Dreams Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,455	Disney Future I just remembered something my DW and I discussed last year while riding the monorail. We questioned whether WDW will still be as great when our kids take their kids? For us that will be about 25 to 30 years from now. So here's my question. Do you think WDW will be better or worse in 25 years? The first time I went to WDW was 27 years ago. Needless to say it got better for me with age.

05-30-2003	#3 (permalink)
neen626 Big Cheese Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Seminole, FL Posts: 800	My vote is for better. I can remember the 1st time I walked into Disney as a small child in 1978!! In some ways it has changed so much, but somethings have stayed the same, and they are the charm of WDW. __________________ Prepare to be awed. Inspired. Thrilled and enchanted. You're about to enter a world where anything can happen, and often does! A world where imagination and adventure come alive all around you! x´¨) x¸.•´ ¸.•´¨)xxxx¸.•¨) (¸.•´xxxxxx(¸.•`xxxxx Nina *´¨) Port Orleans Riverside Grand Floridian~ 2006 Polynesian ~ 2006 Grand Floridian Pop Century Coronado Springs ~ 2005 Port Orleans Riverside ~ 2004 Coronado Springs ~ 2003

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wdwspider Back in the Web! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NC Posts: 2,584	I can't see how it would not get better. Just look at Disney 25 years ago or Disneyland nearly 50 years ago. It was great at the time and so much better now. The in betweens may have ups and downs , but if you look at the moment for every ten years prior the result is major expansions, technological developments, and many new parks and resorts. 25 years from now WDW will really be impressive, even if there are no more expansions, the replacements, updates, and improvements will be awesome. __________________ Boy, It's been a while...

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tigger Official Sunshine Pumper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: In my own skin Posts: 2,924	I'm planning on taking my grandkids to Walt Disney Luna :D Better...Disney is always getting better. __________________ * Taking this post seriously might induce serious medical issues. Please consult your doctor if you feel light headed, dizzy, have dry mouth, ringing of the ears, incontinence, vomiting, loss of vision, numbness or tingling, upset stomach, hair loss, change in breathing, toe fungus, dry skin, muscle aches, runny noise, teeth pain, heaviness of limbs, sudden hunger, dry or red eyes, or a feeling of confusion or lost.

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brumcg Mouse Meister Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,299	Hmmmm... I'm undecided. WDW has been wrapped up into the entire Disney conglomerate. Big conglomerates tend to be very safe and conservative...afraid to take risks and always willing to shave a buck here and there. That's not the philosophy that got Walt and Co. where they are today. Bruce __________________ My Disney Countdown Counting down to: Our March 2010 Spring Break trip! 117 days 8 hours 21 minutes

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05-30-2003	#2 (permalink)
Willbegone Southern Princess Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Too far from WDW! Posts: 2,658	I think it will be better. The reason is it is inevitable that the economy will eventually boom again and I think that when that happens Disney will do lots of things. Also, can't even imagine what the technology will be in 25 years WOW!!! :wow:

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mickaholic4077 Currently in Timeout! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 90 miles from The Mick!!!!! Posts: 6,181	I agree,it can only get better. I just hope that the attention to detail is just as good then as now.

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tinkerbell Neverland Tour Guide ® Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The Ark-La-Tex Posts: 7,596	I believe it will get better .. but brumcg post bothers me a bit .. if they lose sight of what its about ..if they dont keep the dream. But I want to believe it will only get better. __________________ Stinkerbell, so named by Darth Official Defender of Swiss Family Treehouse MB chitchatter. We don't need no stinkin' post counts Protect Texas!!! Arm A Dillo

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DisneyAnne Palmetto Pixie Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,148	Hmmmm... I hope it only gets better with time... My first visit was in January 1973 and it wasn't near what it is today. I thought it was WONDERFUL then even if the Peter Pan ride was still being built. I don't think Disney will ever let things rundown...they are constantly refurbishing (sometimes to my disappointment) and I don't think I have ever seen anything rusted, dirty or worn in the entire park. I hope they continue to build/expand/imagineer but even if things remained as they are, I don't think I would ever be disappointed.:D

05-31-2003	#10 (permalink)
ilvminnie House of Mouse Hostess Join Date: May 2002 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 2,443	If they keep Walt's vision ahead of them, things can only get better. But if Eisner & crew get too business oriented & worry about the bottom line out of proportion to the magic involved, then we could be in trouble. Guess that's why it's the unknown future, huh? __________________ I WISH I WAS IN DISNEYWORLD NOW!!!

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mattomouseman Grumpmeister Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Westchester Co. NY Posts: 1,746	As long as they keep the original vision of Walt Disney first and foremost it will always get better. However Bruce's post does give one pause! Ah but then again the glass is always half full for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:) __________________ Disneyland1972 WDW1975 Disneyland1987 2000~CBR,2001~Wilderness Lodge 2002~Coronado Springs,2003 Poly, 2004 Disneyland Grand Californian NEVER FORGET, NEVER SURRENDER-GOD BLESS THE U.S.A.

05-31-2003	#12 (permalink)
rlander Happy Disney Dreams Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,455	You guys have pretty much echoed our conversation. We hope for the best, and dream of our grandchildren sharing in the magic. But I also fear that the vision will be lost. I'm afraid that the new directors in the future will see WDW as a cash cow. Afterall, a business' main goal is to make money. But this wasn't Walt's goal. I hear a lot about how Micheal Isner has not followed Walt's dream, but I don't agree. When he took helm in the early 1980's he revitalized the vision. He put forth two new parks and continued to grow the fourth. He expanded the resorts to what we have today. I believe the replacement CEO has this same philosiphy and we should be in great shape. Walt left the imagineers a road map of his dreams. Sure...WDW would be different if Walt would have lived another 25 years but I think they have done a terrific job so far.

05-31-2003	#13 (permalink)
wdwspider Back in the Web! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NC Posts: 2,584	I just want to add these comments: Once upon a Toy Store Mission: Space Philharmagic Pop Century Animal Kingdom Lodge Sarassota Springs Resort Expedition Everest Magic Carpets of Aladdin :D The magic still exists in the parks regardless of corporate going-ons. I agree if that is ever lost, then Disney is lost, but it will be a while before this happens... much longer than 25 years. These items above are all recent or upcoming additions and I think several of them contain that Disney Magic we have grown to love. Remember.... "There's a great big beautiful tomorrow..." Think about a beautiful well kept car... when New it is shiny and near flawless, but as time goes on, if it is maintained it will continue to look new from a distance, but if you get up close I'm sure you will find little dings or scratches... does that make it any less of a car, no. The internet allows us Disney fans to look up close to Disney, but when you look at the whole picture, it's still a nice, shiny, well kept car. __________________ Boy, It's been a while...

05-31-2003	#14 (permalink)
brumcg Mouse Meister Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,299	Jeff, I agree about Eisner... to a point. He was definitely the right person at the right time. The company definitely needed leadership and revitalization. In recent years, however, his acquisition strategy has made the company too big (all IMO of course!) and maybe the problem is that he has been spread too thin. Some of his delegates on the park and movie side haven't been tooo impressive. I agree - I love what I've heard about the new guy (Rusalo?), but he hasn't had a chance to do much yet. WDWfan, Other than the resorts (and maybe the Magic Carpets) the other things all have corporate sponsors. Would we be seeing these without that sponsorship? I doubt it - too risky. Compare that to Carousel of Progress which Disney has said can't remain open without a sponsor. Even though I'm not a big CoP fan and I understand the problems with trying to keep it running all year, it's a case of deciding between $$$ and Magic. I hope no one gets me wrong here... I've literally banked on WDW's future by buying into DVC. But I'm a pessimist by nature... :nervous Bruce __________________ My Disney Countdown Counting down to: Our March 2010 Spring Break trip! 117 days 8 hours 21 minutes

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mickaholic4077 Currently in Timeout! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 90 miles from The Mick!!!!! Posts: 6,181	Is Eisner no longer the CEO of Disney? When did that happen???