Mission: Space to offer milder version

Park Hopper · 05-02-2006

I've just heard a preliminary report that beginning this summer Disney will offer Epcot guests the option of riding a milder version of Mission: Space. In the milder version, the centrifuge reportedly will be turned off to eliminate the unpleasant aftereffects for people who are prone to motion sickness or have other health issues.

Two people have died, the most recent last month, and countless others have complained of feeling ill after riding Mission: Space, which opened in the summer of 2003.

Obviously, if two queues are created -- one for the regular version and one for the milder version -- it will affect wait times and ride capacity. I'll post more as it becomes available.

Here's the latest update of the Orlando Sentinel story that includes a little more information:

Disney plans gentler Mission: Space
Word of a less-intense version of the thrill ride follows 2 deaths and many complaints.
By Scott Powers and Beth Kassab
Sentinel Staff Writers

May 3, 2006

Less than a month after a second person died after riding Mission: Space, Walt Disney World is reworking its hazardous but popular Epcot ride to offer a Mission: Space-lite option for some people.

The thrill ride simulates a spaceship launch, flight and landing with a combination of centrifugal and other motion forces and audio and video "virtual-reality" effects. There are four separate centrifuge systems in the ride building, each with 10 pods that can hold four riders each.

Disney announced Tuesday that it will turn off the centrifuge on at least one system, so that riders who don't want, or should not try, the spinning may still ride.

The new option would be available by early summer.

A company spokeswoman said the change is not being made because of the April 12 death of a German tourist, Hiltrud Blumel, the death last summer of a 4-year-old boy, Daudi Bamuwamye, or numerous other illness complaints.

Instead, Disney is characterizing the nonspinning ride as an exciting new option.

"By offering a second adventure, we hope to broaden the appeal of Mission: Space and enable even more guests to experience the attraction," Al Weiss, president of Walt Disney World Resort, said in a prepared statement.

Weiss was not available to be interviewed Tuesday evening. Nor were Walt Disney World Vice President of Epcot Brad Rex, or Walt Disney Parks and Resorts Chief Safety Officer Greg Hale.

Mission: Space has drawn 11.8 million people since it opened in the summer of 2003 and is a favorite of many.

Kim and R.J. Maurice, a sister and brother from Jacksonville, are among them. After they rode it Tuesday, Kim Maurice, 21, said she would ride it 30 more times if she could.

But Mission: Space also draws the most complaints of serious illnesses among all Disney World rides. And it is the only one that includes motion-sickness bags. Besides the two deaths, more than 130 riders have sought medical attention, including 10 reported with serious health effects, since the ride opened.

When asked whether the change was being made because of recent events, Disney spokeswoman Kim Prunty responded, "The answer is no."

"We are doing this for three reasons," Prunty said. "To enable even more guests to experience the attraction; to provide an alternative that may be more suited for some guests, such as those who are prone to motion sickness or have other conditions; and to further encourage all guests to carefully consider and heed posted health warnings."

The ride is safe as designed for people who heed the health warnings, she said. People with cardiovascular problems including hypertension, or who are prone to motion sickness, are warned away by 13 signs, plus video and audio warnings along the ride's queue.

Since the April 12 death, Mission: Space lines consistently have been far shorter than those at Epcot's two other major rides, Soarin' and Test Track. Tuesday evening, the posted wait time for Mission: Space was five minutes, compared with 40 for Soarin' and 30 for Test Track, a typical spread in recent weeks.

Without the centrifugal force -- which the military and NASA have used for decades to help simulate flight and spaceflight -- the ride would be more like Star Tours at Disney-MGM Studios or Back to the Future at Universal Studios. Both simulate flight experiences with rocking, rising and falling motions and video and audio.

Disney is still working out the operational details, Prunty said.

Other rides offer options. Many roller coasters, for example, allow riders to choose the front car. Typically, the queue splits just before the boarding area.

Prunty said Mission: Space warning signs will make the choices clear.

Many Epcot guests were considering the current warnings Tuesday, and some said they would think about riding the alternative if it were available. Kirk and Cosette Steehler of Erie, Pa., sat out the ride while two of their children rode.

They weren't worried about serious problems but said they didn't want to get sick. Kirk Steehler said he has gotten sick before on simulator rides.

"If it was toned down, I'd probably go on it," Cosette Steehler said.

Theme-park analysts and ride-safety proponents welcomed the change.

"It sounds like a reasonable step for a self-regulated park to take," said Kathy Fackler, founder and president of SaferParks, a California-based organization crusading for independent ride-safety reviews.

But some said they think Disney is reacting to the deaths and illnesses.

"I think it's because of the problems they've had with it," said Steve Baker, president of Baker Leisure Group, an Orlando-based theme-park consulting firm. "So I guess they [Disney officials] have got to, without scuttling the whole ride, try something, and make the liability less, to say, 'We've gone to great lengths to offer you a safe ride. What else are we going to do?' "

Nationally, some rides, notably The Rattler at Fiesta Texas, in San Antonio, and Son of Beast, at Kings Island, in Ohio, were changed after injury complaints.

But Dennis Speigel, president of International Theme Park Services in Cincinnati, said he knows of no park that ever offered a less-intense alternative following complaints.

Speigel said he thought the second option is a "logical extension." He said it should encourage more people with health concerns to take the warnings seriously, because they'll have more choices than just to ride or not to ride.

"I would imagine that if there was a question, and somebody realistically addressed that, they will stop and say, 'Well, maybe I will take the less intense ride,' " he said.

**Dana** · 05-02-2006

hmm ..interesting. Thanks for the information. I still won't ride it again, but my DD would be interested in this. She would deinfately want to skip this new slower version...she likes it the way it is. Please do post more as you see it PH. Thanks again for the info!

BuzzLightyear · 05-02-2006

Thats extremely interesting parkhopper.
Thanks for that update.

Andrea · 05-02-2006

I love that idea! I'm completely unable to handle the centrifuge- but I would love to be able to experience the rest of it again!

Peppertink · 05-02-2006

Interesting......I'm still gonna opt for the regular version though:)

PrincessPooh · 05-02-2006

HHMMM!

I kind of figured something was going to have to give, since the last two incidents. I didn't really have that idea though. I may be interested to try the new version, I'm pretty sure I'd never go on the centrifuge ride again!

Erin · 05-02-2006

Very interesting! We'd ride the milder ride!

Thanks, PH!

**DisneyTeacher** · 05-02-2006

Thanks for the information Park Hopper, keep us posted.

mickaholic4077 · 05-02-2006

I would try the milder ride.

Park Hopper · 05-02-2006

Here's an update from the Orlando Sentinel:

Disney to tame Mission: Space
Park to offer a toned-down version of ride for visitors

By Scott Powers and Beth Kassab
Sentinel Staff Writers

May 2, 2006

Less than a month after a second person died after riding Mission: Space, Walt Disney World is reworking its hazardous but popular Epcot ride to offer a Mission: Space lite for people who shouldn't or don't want to try the full experience.

Mission: Space simulates a spaceship launch, flight and landing by combining centrifugal and other motions with audio and video effects. There are four separate centrifuge systems in the building and at least one of them would be turned off so that riders experienced rocking motions and the other effects, but not the spinning.

Disney announced the new ride option would be available by "early summer" for people who chose not to ride the more intense version either because they don't want to or because they have health problems that prevent them from doing so.

Disney officials said the change is not being made because of the April 12 death of a German tourist, Hiltrud Blümel, or the death last summer of a 4-year-old boy, Daudi Bamuwamye, or because of numerous other illness complaints.

Instead, Disney is characterizing the change as an exciting new option.

"By offering a second adventure, we hope to broaden the appeal of Mission: Space and enable even more guests to experience the attraction," Al Weiss, president of Walt Disney World Resort, said in a prepared statement.

The ride has drawn 11.7 million people since it opened in the summer of 2003 and is a favorite of many. But it's also the Disney ride that draws the most complaints and serious illnesses, and is the only ride at Disney that includes motion sickness bags. Besides the two deaths, more than 130 riders have sought medical attention, including 10 reported for suffering serious health effects.

When asked if the change was being made because of recent events, Disney spokeswoman Kim Prunty responded, "The answer is no.

"We are doing this for three reasons: to enable even more guests to experience the attraction; to provide an alternative that may be more suited for some guests, such as those who are prone to motion sickness or have other conditions; and to further encourage all guests to carefully consider and heed posted health warnings."

The move is being welcomed by theme park analysts and ride safety proponents.

"It sounds like a reasonable step for a self-regulated park to take," said Kathy Fackler, founder and president of SaferParks, a California-based organization crusading for independent ride safety reviews.

PrincessJill · 05-02-2006

Great!!! I'd never be able to do the regular version. But I would like to see the ride (and push the buttons

). I'm all for the mild version!!

gingles · 05-02-2006

Probably a good thing, but without the g-forces, I imagine the mild ride will be about as exciting as the old Mission to the Moon and Mission to Mars attractions.

Disneyfever · 05-02-2006

I think Disney made great decision. Although my family and I love the ride the way it is, this is a great alternative for people. It will be also great for people that can't decide whether or not to ride the original. They can ride the milder version to get an idea of what the ride is about and make a better decision.

tigger · 05-02-2006

I hope that this means the extreme M:S will be extreme...4G's would be extreme

RowdyRAider · 05-02-2006

I'm glad that Disney's really taking the matter seriously, but at the same time keeping a regular queue open (which I'll still ride), which says Mission: Space isn't responsible for the two tragedies that resulted in death or else the ride would shut down. but we'll help riders enjoy the best we can.

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Park Hopper Mouse Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,255	Mission: Space to offer option of milder ride (includes Orlando Sentinel update) I've just heard a preliminary report that beginning this summer Disney will offer Epcot guests the option of riding a milder version of Mission: Space. In the milder version, the centrifuge reportedly will be turned off to eliminate the unpleasant aftereffects for people who are prone to motion sickness or have other health issues. Two people have died, the most recent last month, and countless others have complained of feeling ill after riding Mission: Space, which opened in the summer of 2003. Obviously, if two queues are created -- one for the regular version and one for the milder version -- it will affect wait times and ride capacity. I'll post more as it becomes available. Here's the latest update of the Orlando Sentinel story that includes a little more information: Disney plans gentler Mission: Space Word of a less-intense version of the thrill ride follows 2 deaths and many complaints. By Scott Powers and Beth Kassab Sentinel Staff Writers May 3, 2006 Less than a month after a second person died after riding Mission: Space, Walt Disney World is reworking its hazardous but popular Epcot ride to offer a Mission: Space-lite option for some people. The thrill ride simulates a spaceship launch, flight and landing with a combination of centrifugal and other motion forces and audio and video "virtual-reality" effects. There are four separate centrifuge systems in the ride building, each with 10 pods that can hold four riders each. Disney announced Tuesday that it will turn off the centrifuge on at least one system, so that riders who don't want, or should not try, the spinning may still ride. The new option would be available by early summer. A company spokeswoman said the change is not being made because of the April 12 death of a German tourist, Hiltrud Blumel, the death last summer of a 4-year-old boy, Daudi Bamuwamye, or numerous other illness complaints. Instead, Disney is characterizing the nonspinning ride as an exciting new option. "By offering a second adventure, we hope to broaden the appeal of Mission: Space and enable even more guests to experience the attraction," Al Weiss, president of Walt Disney World Resort, said in a prepared statement. Weiss was not available to be interviewed Tuesday evening. Nor were Walt Disney World Vice President of Epcot Brad Rex, or Walt Disney Parks and Resorts Chief Safety Officer Greg Hale. Mission: Space has drawn 11.8 million people since it opened in the summer of 2003 and is a favorite of many. Kim and R.J. Maurice, a sister and brother from Jacksonville, are among them. After they rode it Tuesday, Kim Maurice, 21, said she would ride it 30 more times if she could. But Mission: Space also draws the most complaints of serious illnesses among all Disney World rides. And it is the only one that includes motion-sickness bags. Besides the two deaths, more than 130 riders have sought medical attention, including 10 reported with serious health effects, since the ride opened. When asked whether the change was being made because of recent events, Disney spokeswoman Kim Prunty responded, "The answer is no." "We are doing this for three reasons," Prunty said. "To enable even more guests to experience the attraction; to provide an alternative that may be more suited for some guests, such as those who are prone to motion sickness or have other conditions; and to further encourage all guests to carefully consider and heed posted health warnings." The ride is safe as designed for people who heed the health warnings, she said. People with cardiovascular problems including hypertension, or who are prone to motion sickness, are warned away by 13 signs, plus video and audio warnings along the ride's queue. Since the April 12 death, Mission: Space lines consistently have been far shorter than those at Epcot's two other major rides, Soarin' and Test Track. Tuesday evening, the posted wait time for Mission: Space was five minutes, compared with 40 for Soarin' and 30 for Test Track, a typical spread in recent weeks. Without the centrifugal force -- which the military and NASA have used for decades to help simulate flight and spaceflight -- the ride would be more like Star Tours at Disney-MGM Studios or Back to the Future at Universal Studios. Both simulate flight experiences with rocking, rising and falling motions and video and audio. Disney is still working out the operational details, Prunty said. Other rides offer options. Many roller coasters, for example, allow riders to choose the front car. Typically, the queue splits just before the boarding area. Prunty said Mission: Space warning signs will make the choices clear. Many Epcot guests were considering the current warnings Tuesday, and some said they would think about riding the alternative if it were available. Kirk and Cosette Steehler of Erie, Pa., sat out the ride while two of their children rode. They weren't worried about serious problems but said they didn't want to get sick. Kirk Steehler said he has gotten sick before on simulator rides. "If it was toned down, I'd probably go on it," Cosette Steehler said. Theme-park analysts and ride-safety proponents welcomed the change. "It sounds like a reasonable step for a self-regulated park to take," said Kathy Fackler, founder and president of SaferParks, a California-based organization crusading for independent ride-safety reviews. But some said they think Disney is reacting to the deaths and illnesses. "I think it's because of the problems they've had with it," said Steve Baker, president of Baker Leisure Group, an Orlando-based theme-park consulting firm. "So I guess they [Disney officials] have got to, without scuttling the whole ride, try something, and make the liability less, to say, 'We've gone to great lengths to offer you a safe ride. What else are we going to do?' " Nationally, some rides, notably The Rattler at Fiesta Texas, in San Antonio, and Son of Beast, at Kings Island, in Ohio, were changed after injury complaints. But Dennis Speigel, president of International Theme Park Services in Cincinnati, said he knows of no park that ever offered a less-intense alternative following complaints. Speigel said he thought the second option is a "logical extension." He said it should encourage more people with health concerns to take the warnings seriously, because they'll have more choices than just to ride or not to ride. "I would imagine that if there was a question, and somebody realistically addressed that, they will stop and say, 'Well, maybe I will take the less intense ride,' " he said. __________________ 30 Minutes from the Mouse Last edited by Park Hopper; 05-03-2006 at 11:04 AM.

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Dana Super Mod/Packen' Kracken Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Joisey Posts: 23,782	Re: Mission: Space to offer milder version hmm ..interesting. Thanks for the information. I still won't ride it again, but my DD would be interested in this. She would deinfately want to skip this new slower version...she likes it the way it is. Please do post more as you see it PH. Thanks again for the info! __________________ ~82 off-site~91 off-site~97 ASMusic~ ~00 ASMovies~02 Wilderness Lodge~04 Animal Kingdom Lodge~ ~05 Animal Kingdom Lodge & Polynesian~ ~05 Port Orleans French Quarter~06 Old Key West~ ~07 Port Orleans French Quarter~08 Old Key West~ ~09 Saratoga Springs~10 Port Orleans Fench Quarter~ My Disney Countdown Counting down to: 10 day do all or die trying trip. 273 days 16 hours 50 minutes

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BuzzLightyear MB Cast Member ® Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Space Mountain Posts: 3,917	Re: Mission: Space to offer milder version Thats extremely interesting parkhopper. Thanks for that update. __________________ 86,92,96 Offsite * 2002 AKL * 2003 BCV * 2004 Contemporary * 2005 WL * 2006 BWV* 2008 CSR * My Disney Countdown Counting down to: 111 days 2 hours 50 minutes

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Andrea Dole Whip Apostate Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Shasta in my heart Posts: 2,815	Re: Mission: Space to offer milder version I love that idea! I'm completely unable to handle the centrifuge- but I would love to be able to experience the rest of it again! __________________ x´¨) x¸.•´ ¸.•´¨"...make sure you don't grow up stupid.¸.•´¨) (¸.•´xxxxxxxxxxxxIt's bad for the world."xxxxxxxxxxx ¸.•´ xxxxxxxxxxxxx--Tami Taylor, Friday Night Lightsxxxxxxxxxx(¸.•`* My Disney Countdown Counting down to: I have absolutely nothing to look forward too. :-(

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Peppertink Disney Bride:) Join Date: May 2005 Location: With my Southern Gents.... Posts: 6,330	Re: Mission: Space to offer milder version Interesting......I'm still gonna opt for the regular version though:) __________________ Thank you, thank you, thank you for the AVATAR R2G! YOU ROCK! YOU DA MAN!!! Trumpet players are the sexiest! He is not the BOSS of me! Pu is my favorite Mouse! Limsy is my bad influence Nutty is my favorite Voodoo Queen and co-captain of the annoypid police Dopey is my favorite cookie dealer That monkey took the cookie out of my Wacky Pack! My Disney Countdown Counting down to: Mickey here we come! Spending our first anniversary with Mickey Last edited by Peppertink; 05-02-2006 at 06:20 PM.

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PrincessPooh Mouse Meister Join Date: May 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 1,365	Re: Mission: Space to offer milder version HHMMM! I kind of figured something was going to have to give, since the last two incidents. I didn't really have that idea though. I may be interested to try the new version, I'm pretty sure I'd never go on the centrifuge ride again! __________________ ~~PrincessPooh~~ "Here you leave today and enter the world of yesterday, tomorrow and fantasy" ...9/05 POR~12/06 WL~9/07 POFQ~9/08 POLY~1/09 SSR~5/09 SSR~8/09 SSR... Your friendly DVC neighbor at Kidani Village, AKL!

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Erin Scooter Princess Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Welaka Posts: 9,771	Re: Mission: Space to offer milder version Very interesting! We'd ride the milder ride! Thanks, PH! __________________ Team Jake! http://www.twitter.com/IamBubbles www.facebook.com/scooterprincess

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DisneyTeacher Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: WDW in my dreams Posts: 18,305	Re: Mission: Space to offer milder version Thanks for the information Park Hopper, keep us posted. __________________ ~Stephanie~ 1993 Caribbean Beach Resort ~ 1996 Caribbean Beach resort ~1997 Caribbean Beach Resort ~2003 Wilderness Lodge ~2004 Beach Club Resort/Shades of Green/Pop Century~ 2005 Wilderness Lodge Resort/Beach Club Villas ~ 2006 Saratoga Springs Resort~2007 Port Orleans French Quarter/Beach Club Villas/Boardwalk Villas ~ 2007 Port Orleans Riverside~ 2008 Wilderness Lodge/Beach Club Villas~2008 Beach Club Villas~2009 Hilton Head Island~ 2009 Beach Club Villas My Disney Countdown Counting down to: Beach Club here we come 242 days 21 hours 50 minutes

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mickaholic4077 Currently in Timeout! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 90 miles from The Mick!!!!! Posts: 6,181	Re: Mission: Space to offer milder version I would try the milder ride.

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Park Hopper Mouse Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,255	Re: Mission: Space to offer milder version Here's an update from the Orlando Sentinel: Disney to tame Mission: Space Park to offer a toned-down version of ride for visitors By Scott Powers and Beth Kassab Sentinel Staff Writers May 2, 2006 Less than a month after a second person died after riding Mission: Space, Walt Disney World is reworking its hazardous but popular Epcot ride to offer a Mission: Space lite for people who shouldn't or don't want to try the full experience. Mission: Space simulates a spaceship launch, flight and landing by combining centrifugal and other motions with audio and video effects. There are four separate centrifuge systems in the building and at least one of them would be turned off so that riders experienced rocking motions and the other effects, but not the spinning. Disney announced the new ride option would be available by "early summer" for people who chose not to ride the more intense version either because they don't want to or because they have health problems that prevent them from doing so. Disney officials said the change is not being made because of the April 12 death of a German tourist, Hiltrud Blümel, or the death last summer of a 4-year-old boy, Daudi Bamuwamye, or because of numerous other illness complaints. Instead, Disney is characterizing the change as an exciting new option. "By offering a second adventure, we hope to broaden the appeal of Mission: Space and enable even more guests to experience the attraction," Al Weiss, president of Walt Disney World Resort, said in a prepared statement. The ride has drawn 11.7 million people since it opened in the summer of 2003 and is a favorite of many. But it's also the Disney ride that draws the most complaints and serious illnesses, and is the only ride at Disney that includes motion sickness bags. Besides the two deaths, more than 130 riders have sought medical attention, including 10 reported for suffering serious health effects. When asked if the change was being made because of recent events, Disney spokeswoman Kim Prunty responded, "The answer is no. "We are doing this for three reasons: to enable even more guests to experience the attraction; to provide an alternative that may be more suited for some guests, such as those who are prone to motion sickness or have other conditions; and to further encourage all guests to carefully consider and heed posted health warnings." The move is being welcomed by theme park analysts and ride safety proponents. "It sounds like a reasonable step for a self-regulated park to take," said Kathy Fackler, founder and president of SaferParks, a California-based organization crusading for independent ride safety reviews. __________________ 30 Minutes from the Mouse

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PrincessJill Snails??!? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: FL Posts: 2,394	Re: Mission: Space to offer milder version Great!!! I'd never be able to do the regular version. But I would like to see the ride (and push the buttons ). I'm all for the mild version!! __________________ Avatar: Escargots Persillade en Brioche Fall 2010 WDWCP Hopeful!

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gingles Phantom of the MB Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge...where Tigers bite Posts: 2,249	Re: Mission: Space to offer milder version Probably a good thing, but without the g-forces, I imagine the mild ride will be about as exciting as the old Mission to the Moon and Mission to Mars attractions. __________________ Can You Twitter? Facebook DD#1 is Southern Belle and DD#2 is LSUTigerLily! GEAUX LSU FOOTBALL TIGERS!!! FLORIDA MAY BE THE PRESEASON NO. 1 BUT WAIT 'TIL YOU COME TO OUR HOUSE... My Disney Countdown Counting down to: Back to WDW for Free Dining Toto, is this Kansas?

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Disneyfever Big Cheese Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 784	Re: Mission: Space to offer milder version I think Disney made great decision. Although my family and I love the ride the way it is, this is a great alternative for people. It will be also great for people that can't decide whether or not to ride the original. They can ride the milder version to get an idea of what the ride is about and make a better decision. __________________ x´¨) x¸.•´ ¸.•´¨)xxxx¸.•¨) (¸.•´xxxxxx(¸.•`xxx Judy *´¨) July 2000 - DL PP April 2001 - POFQ March 2002 - WDW offsite Oct 2004 - CR March 2005 - All Star Sports Nov 2005 - DL offsite Sept 2006 - Poly

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tigger Official Sunshine Pumper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: In my own skin Posts: 2,924	Re: Mission: Space to offer milder version I hope that this means the extreme M:S will be extreme...4G's would be extreme __________________ * Taking this post seriously might induce serious medical issues. Please consult your doctor if you feel light headed, dizzy, have dry mouth, ringing of the ears, incontinence, vomiting, loss of vision, numbness or tingling, upset stomach, hair loss, change in breathing, toe fungus, dry skin, muscle aches, runny noise, teeth pain, heaviness of limbs, sudden hunger, dry or red eyes, or a feeling of confusion or lost.

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RowdyRAider Mouse Meister Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The House of Mouse in Florida Posts: 2,175	Re: Mission: Space to offer milder version I'm glad that Disney's really taking the matter seriously, but at the same time keeping a regular queue open (which I'll still ride), which says Mission: Space isn't responsible for the two tragedies that resulted in death or else the ride would shut down. but we'll help riders enjoy the best we can. __________________ Defending the magic since '04, Matt Taylor, Da RowdyRaider