[Soundgod]

Originally Posted by Allyson

Wait....now that I think more about it...we were in Dallas!! Are there two Six Flags in Texas???

There are three Six Flags parks in Texas. Six Flags over Texas - the original, as seen on the Banana Splits outside Dallas. Six Flags Astro world in Houston. Six Flags Fiesta Texas in San Antonio. Texas also has a Sea World and the world's number one water park Schliterbahn (that sounds nasty).

People, enough with this infatuation with the Estefans and their Bongo's Cuban restaraunt. It's not authentic and they can't make Cuban coffee right. And if a Cuban restaraunt can't do Cuban coffee right, then they should close!

[MerlinMatt]

Originally Posted by Soundgod

Texas also has a Sea World and the world's number one water park Schliterbahn (that sounds nasty).

Isn't the new Typhoon Lagoon ride based on their big slide?

Originally Posted by Soundgod

People, enough with this infatuation with the Estefans and their Bongo's Cuban restaraunt. It's not authentic and they can't make Cuban coffee right. And if a Cuban restaraunt can't do Cuban coffee right, then they should close!

One of the food aspects that really bugs me about Disney is that the only coffee you can get is Nestle coffee. It's not horrible, but it's not that great either.

However, I believe that the Cappucino served at Marrakesh is NOT Nestle. I can't be sure of this, but it certainly tastes better than cappucino I had elsewhere in WDW.

[Soundgod]

Originally Posted by KentB3

Once again, Downtown Disney's layout will be similar to that of Disneyland's, but a bit larger and with more room for expansion; and located on a central hub between the two parks, unlike WDW's Downtown Disney, which seems quite out of the way from the theme parks!

Of course it's out of the way from the parks. It's DOWNTOWN Disney, the concept being locating your shopping district close to the other resorts. It's not so far out of the way anymore. Not with the entrances to Typhoon Lagoon and MGM being just around the corner. That really is a downtown. What's at Disneyland is another City Walk.

[Madchen]

9.) Scrooge McDuck's Money Bin: This is a play area based on Scrooge McDuck's immense money bin!

I would pay just to see that. I am absolutely obsessed with Uncle Scrooge, have been since I was five (I'm now 34.) When I went to Disneyland a few months ago, I emailed and begged them to have Scrooge there. They couldn't, but sent me an autographed photo. I've been trying to meet him all my life. I saw him once at DL when I was 15, he was in Main Street USA, and I tore through there like a wild woman but couldn't get through the crowds in time.

Wow, do I love that duck!! I'm crossing my fingers and toes that I'll have more luck at WDW!

[Soundgod]

Merlin Matt, there are some places that do have better coffee, Boma for one. I'm also sure that all the esspresso is not Nestle. I hadn't give much thought to who provided the beans, mostly because it's so far out of my control, and I don't feel like bringing all my grinders and bags and coffee maker. If I'm going that far, I'll bring the iced tea kit, but I only do that when I'm on tour and have the truck and road cases.

[KentB3]

Originally Posted by Madchen

I would pay just to see that. I am absolutely obsessed with Uncle Scrooge, have been since I was five (I'm now 34.) When I went to Disneyland a few months ago, I emailed and begged them to have Scrooge there. They couldn't, but sent me an autographed photo. I've been trying to meet him all my life. I saw him once at DL when I was 15, he was in Main Street USA, and I tore through there like a wild woman but couldn't get through the crowds in time.

Wow, do I love that duck!! I'm crossing my fingers and toes that I'll have more luck at WDW!

That's not the ONLY place you may find Uncle Scrooge in my Disney theme park resort. Scrooge McDuck also appears at the character breakfast held at the Contemporary Café in the Contemporary Resort Hotel (mine is similar to WDW's, but with no exterior wings, at least no upon opening day, as all rooms will be inside the tower!). Other characters appearing here each morning include Donald Duck, Daisy, Mickey Mouse, Goofy, and Pluto.

In addition, the monorail will travel above the restaurant's dining hall, much like at WDW's Chef Mickey's!

Hope you're happy now!

[KentB3]

Originally Posted by Soundgod

People, enough with this infatuation with the Estefans and their Bongo's Cuban restaraunt. It's not authentic and they can't make Cuban coffee right. And if a Cuban restaraunt can't do Cuban coffee right, then they should close!

Are you Cuban, BTW? If so, maybe you could put in a little input here about this subject!

[KentB3]

Originally Posted by Soundgod

There are three Six Flags parks in Texas. Six Flags over Texas - the original, as seen on the Banana Splits outside Dallas. Six Flags Astro world in Houston. Six Flags Fiesta Texas in San Antonio. Texas also has a Sea World and the world's number one water park Schliterbahn (that sounds nasty).

3 Six Flags theme parks in 1 state? That's a lot within a small area, ESPECIALLY compared to Disney's theme parks, which are VERY far apart!

However, it looks like this will not be the case in Asia sometime soon; two more Asian Disney theme park resorts have been planned. The first will be in Shanghai, China-- just 550 miles from Hong Kong, and a second one will open shortly after that in Seoul, S. Korea-- which is 538 miles from Tokyo!

[SoThisIsLove]

WOW! I just read EVERY SINGLE post to this thread, and I like your idea a ton! Beauty and the Beast castle sounds cute, too! And also, if you dont want to do that (not like you are going to change that lol) if there are any theme parks being put any where else in the world, a Snow White's castle would be cool. I am obsessed w\ snow white! The thing is, she was the first disney movie, yet she doesn't have a castle! SNOW WHITE NEEDS A CASTLE! lol Anyway......... I LOVE your plans. I live in MA and it would be pretty painful to get there, but I will try! Your ideas sound cool. I like how you are keeping stuff from WDW but adding knew stuff; I also like that you are keeping Fantasmic! I LOVE fantasmic- one of the best parts of WDW! Ok I am done blabbing now, but I like your ideas and please let me know if you get close to actually building one. In my opinion we could have 100 Disney parks in the US and it still wouldn't be enough Disney magic for me. Now that I have practically written an essay here, good luck with your plans!

[KentB3]

Originally Posted by SoThisIsLove

WOW! I just read EVERY SINGLE post to this thread, and I like your idea a ton! Beauty and the Beast castle sounds cute, too! And also, if you dont want to do that (not like you are going to change that lol) if there are any theme parks being put any where else in the world, a Snow White's castle would be cool. I am obsessed w\ snow white! The thing is, she was the first disney movie, yet she doesn't have a castle! SNOW WHITE NEEDS A CASTLE! lol Anyway......... I LOVE your plans. I live in MA and it would be pretty painful to get there, but I will try! Your ideas sound cool. I like how you are keeping stuff from WDW but adding knew stuff; I also like that you are keeping Fantasmic! I LOVE fantasmic- one of the best parts of WDW! Ok I am done blabbing now, but I like your ideas and please let me know if you get close to actually building one. In my opinion we could have 100 Disney parks in the US and it still wouldn't be enough Disney magic for me. Now that I have practically written an essay here, good luck with your plans!

You're are an enthustastic one, aren't you Collette?!

As for my selection of Beauty and the Beast Castle, this was determined from a poll I conducted on WDWMagic (where I designed this park). Also, I noticed a striking resemblance between the post-transformation castle from the movie Beauty and the Beast (1991) and the Disneyland Paris castle; which is quite awe-inspiring! This is very likely due to the fact that Disneyland Paris and Beauty and the Beast came out and were both in production/design around the same time. Also, having Beauty and the Beast Castle in my MK-like park would give us the opportunity to have BOTH versions of the Beast character avaliable for greets! Since the castle in my MK park is based on the post-transformation castle for the most part, Vincent (Belle's Prince) will do greets in the Magic Kingdom park (at WDW, he only appears at the beginning and end of the B&TB stage show at Disney-MGM), and the Beast will appear at Disney Studios, my 2nd theme park in my Disney theme park resort. This would help both parks cross-promote each other by offering a different version of the Beast character for meets & greets, especially since I planned for both parks to open around the same time, more-or-less!

FYI, Disneyland's Castle was originally designed as Snow White's Castle, but changed to Sleeping Beauty's Castle shortly before the park opened, to help promote the (then) upcoming movie. Just thought you'd like to know!

[SoThisIsLove]

Originally Posted by KentB3

You're are an enthustastic one, aren't you Colette?!

As for my selection of Beauty and the Beast Castle, this was determined from a poll I conducted on WDWMagic (where I designed this park). Also, I noticed a striking resemblance between the post-transformation castle from the movie Beauty and the Beast (1991) and the Disneyland Paris castle; which is quite awe-inspiring! This is very likely due to the fact that Disneyland Paris and Beauty and the Beast came out and were both in production/design around the same time. Also, having Beauty and the Beast Castle in my MK-like park would give us the opportunity to have BOTH versions of the Beast character avaliable for greets! Since the castle in my MK park is based on the post-transformation castle for the most part, Vincent (Belle's Prince) will do greets in the Magic Kingdom park (at WDW, he only appears at the beginning and end of the B&TB stage show at Disney-MGM), and the Beast will appear at Disney Studios, my 2nd theme park in my Disney theme park resort. This would help both parks cross-promote each other by offering a different version of the Beast character for meets & greets, especially since I planned for both parks to open around the same time, more-or-less!

FYI, Disneyland's Castle was originally designed as Snow White's Castle, but changed to Sleeping Beauty's Castle shortly before the park opened, to help promote the (then) upcoming movie. Just thought you'd like to know!

lol. Yes I am usually ridiculously hyper. That would be cool with all the Beauty and the Beast characters- you don't see them much around WDW.
Thats a pretty cool idea- promoting the 2 parks. Big bucks that way! lol
Yay thanx! I feel happy now that Snow White was thought of.

[KentB3]

Originally Posted by SoThisIsLove

lol. Yes I am usually ridiculously hyper. That would be cool with all the Beauty and the Beast characters- you don't see them much around WDW.
Thats a pretty cool idea- promoting the 2 parks. Big bucks that way! lol
Yay thanx! I feel happy now that Snow White was thought of.

Well, once again, I'm glad you enjoyed my ideas! Looks like we both think the same way!

[KentB3]

Originally Posted by SoThisIsLove

I also like that you are keeping Fantasmic! I LOVE fantasmic- one of the best parts of WDW!

Actually, my Fantasmic! show is more like Disneyland's, which most consider FAR superior to Disney-MGM's Fantasmic! show. For one thing, the Rivers of America is used as the setting instead of a waterway used only for the theater stage area. Also, Disneyland's show has a Peter Pan segment on the Sailing Ship Columbia (which many of the parks guests have ridden earlier during the day!), and the finale uses the Mark Twain Riverboat (ditto!) instead of a smaller, cheaper-looking Steamboat Willie replica used at Dinsey-MGM.

There is a drawback to Disneyland's Fantasmic!, though. There are no seats, so guests watch the show either standing or (if they can see well enough) sitting on the hard ground. Disney-MGM's has stadium-like seating. I decided to offer the best of both worlds by staging the show on the Rivers of America with a show more similar to Disneyland's and including a seating area for the guests.

Just my 2 cents worth!

[KentB3]

I have made a few revisions to my lists of shops, restaurants, and entertainment establishments for Downtown Disney at my proposed Disney theme park resort.

I was considering a layout for Downtown Disney which would be sort of a combination of Disneyland's Downtown Disney and the proposed Disneyland Plaza (similar to Downtown Disney) that was planned for DLR about 10 years ago but scrapped along with WestCOT (which had shops, restuarants, and entertainment venues around a lake), but with more room for future expansion. Also, my Downtown Disney is located on a central hub between the two parks; unlike WDW's Downtown Disney, which seems quite out of the way!

In addition, there is a monorail stop between Downtown Disney Marketplace and Paradise Plaza; as the monorail is also connected to the two theme parks and all hotels, plus the campground!

So far, my Downtown Disney has 43 establishments, 9 more than Disneyland's Downtown Disney in Anaheim, but 17 less than WDW's Downtown Disney (26 if you include the Boardwalk!)

Here is what I have so far:

DOWNTOWN DISNEY MARKETPLACE

Food & Restaurants:
1.) Alfredo's of Rome (L'Originale Alfredo di Roma Ristorante)
2.) Baskin-Robbins
3.) Cinnamon Bay Bakery
4.) Earl of Sandwich
5.) Fulton's Crab House: this is actually located between Downtown Disney Marketplace and Paradise Plaza (listed below), near the monorail station stop on the Downtown Disney lake, in a riverboat-shaped building like WDW's acessable by bridge. In addition to its seafood menu for lunch and dinner, Fulton's Crab House also holds a character breakfast each morning (WDW's Fulton's Crab House had a character breakfast as well during the 1990's, and possibly earlier), with a buffet menu similar to Donald's Breakfastosarus at WDW's Animal Kingdom, but stripped of its dinosaur/prehistoric/safari theming!

Characters at breakfast include Donald, Daisy, Scrooge McDuck, Mickey, Goofy, and Pluto.

6.) Ghirardelli Soda Fountain and Chocolate Shop
7.) Marceline's Confectionery
8.) McDonald's
9.) Wetzel's Pretzels

Shops:
1) The Art of Disney
2.) Basin (selling candles, soaps, and bath crystals; just to name a few items!)
3.) Build-a-Bear Workshop
4.) Disney at Home
5.) Disney's Days of Christmas
6.) Illuminations
7.) LEGO Imagination Center
8.) Liquid Planet (store selling beachwear and accessories)
9.) Magnetron (selling an assortment of 50,000 magnets!)
10.) Once Upon a Toy
11.) Petals (selling a wide variety of leather goods, including jackets, handbags, and other accessories)
12.) Silver & Gold Gallery
13.) Team Mickey's Athletic Club
14.) World of Disney

DOWNTOWN DISNEY PARADISE PLAZA

Similar to Paradise Plaza at Disneyland in Anaheim, this is primarily Downtown Disney's entertainment district, with a few shops and restaurants:

Food/Restaurants/Entertainment:
1.) AMC Theaters 24
2.) Big Easy Jazz Kitchen
3.) ¡Bongos Y Arriba! Latino Cafe: Jointly owned by Gloria Estefan and the management of Disneyland's ¡Y Arriba! ¡Y Arriba!, ¡Bongos Y Arriba! combined the best features of the two Dinner clubs, offering a global scope of Hispanic food and music from various Latin American countries!

4.) Cheesecake Factory Express (located inside DisneyQuest)
5.) Cirque du Soleil
6.) DisneyQuest
7.) ESPN Zone
8.) House of Blues
9.) Planet Hollywood
10.) Rainforest Café
11.) Wolfgang Puck Café

Shopping:
1.) Borders Megastore (selling a wide variety of books, magazines, newpapers, music, videos, and DVD's)
2.) Celebrity Eyeworks
3.) DTV
4.) Hoypoloi
5.) House of Blues Company Store (adjacent to House of Blues)
6.) Paradise Plaza Magic Shop (a magic shop, which also offers free demonstrations for the customers!)
7.) Planet Hollywood: On Location (adjacent to Planet Hollywood)
8.) Rainforest Shop (inside Rainforest Café)
9.) Starabilias


As for the nightclub district, nothing has been planned so far. Keep in my that my Disney theme park resort has been planned as more of a daytrip (ie: Disneyland) as opposed to an entire vacation destination like WDW. Also, my Downtown Disney list is for opening day, so there's no telling what else would show up here as the years go by; given profits and park attendance!

If anyone here has questions, comments, and/or suggestions, please feel free to post; since I could use your feedback!

I look forward to hearing from you!

[KentB3]

I made a few revisions to my list of hotels for my proposed Disney theme park resort as of opening day-- which will consist of four hotels plus a campground. Three of these hotels run in the Deluxe to Moderate price range ($133+ per night), while the 4th is a Value-priced resort ($77-$124 per night). These hotels are listed in order from most expensive/luxurious to least. Here is what I have so far:

Disneyland Hotel: This is the crown jewel of the hotels in my proposed Disney theme park resort. The architecture is very much like that of the Grand Floridian, but the layout is more like that of Disneyland's Grand Californian, with all rooms in one building and six floors instead the Grand Floridian's and the Grand Californian's (I think) five. The Disneyland Hotel also includes the Neverland Pool, based on the Disney animated movie Peter Pan (1953) -- similar to the pool at the Disneyland (Anaheim) Hotel, but larger to accomodate more guests. There are 600 rooms inside the Disneyland Hotel, which overlooks the Magic Kingdom theme park.

Disney's Hollywood Hotel: This hotel overlooks the Disney Studios theme park, and has a Hollywood theme to it, with somewhat of a Disney focus. The Hollywood Hotel is quite similar to the Hollywood Hotel in the soon-to-open Hong Kong theme park, but may include a few differences as well. There are 502 rooms inside Disney's Hollywood Hotel, the same number as Disneyland's Paradise Pier Hotel.

Disney's Contemporary Resort: Overlooking the Discoveryland side of the Magic Kingdom, the Contemporary Resort is similar to its WDW counterpart, but with numerous differences as well. In addition to many different shops and restaurants, the conference rooms on the 3rd floor of WDW's Contemprary Resort will be inside the convention center building, since it would be a better location, I think. The convention center at WDW's Contemporary was built in 1991, 20 years after the hotel opened, with explains why the conference rooms are in the tower. Also, all rooms are inside the tower, as no exterior wings have been built, at least not yet!

Here is the floor arrangement for this hotel:

Floor 1: Lobby/Food
Floor 2 & 3: Shops & Restaurants (WDW's Contemporary has this on floors 2 & 4, with the conference rooms on floor 3)
Floor 4: Guest Rooms & Monorail Station
Floor 5-12, 14: Guest Rooms
Floor 15: Not sure. WDW's has California Grill, but I will probably have something different. I am seriously considering a new, up-to-date version of Top of the World for the top floor, it this would work today!

On the 3rd floor, Chef Mickey's offers character dining every day at Breakfast and Dinner. Characters include Mickey, Minnie, Donald (at Dinner), Goofy, Pluto (at Breakfast), Chip and Dale.

Despite the fact that WDW has the Contemporary, I chose this since I always found the Contemporary to be a facinating building to look at, especially with the monorail going right though the building! There are 441 rooms inside the Contemporary; which is 48 more rooms than WDW's has inside its tower, due to the relocation and better placement of the conference rooms!

Disney's All-Stars Resort: Disney's All-Stars is similar to All-Star Movies at WDW, but focusing on the characters instead of their movies. This is our Value resort, with rooms spanning 320 square feet (as opposed to ASM's 260 square foot rooms). The All-Stars is broken up into 8 buildings, with 104 rooms in each building (shaped like a straight rectangle the same legth as WDW's All-Stars and Pop Century's inns, but missing the back wing which from WDW's inns, which give WDW's their "T" shape) on three floors, with two buildings per theme. Here is what I have for Disney's All-Stars:

1.) 101 Dalmations: even though this is the film's title, the 101 Dalmations are still the movie's main characters!
2.) Buzz & Woody's: This is the Toy Story-themed area, but the name was changed for reasons mentioned above.
3.) House of Mouse: This features the "Big 5" (Mickey, Minnie, Donald, Goofy, and Pluto); along with their frequent costars (Daisy, Scrooge McDuck, Huey, Dewey, Louie, Chip & Dale, etc.). The House of Mouse also features the Duck Pond Pool, which includes a centerpiece of Donald and other duck costars shooting water pistols into the pool, much like the Calypso Pool's centerpiece at WDW's All-Star Music! There is also a small, shallower kiddie pool next to the main one. The pool sits in the middle of the cluster of motel buildings, with the main building at one end, and room for expansion at the other end of the complex.

4.) Pooh Corner: which features Winnie the Pooh, Tigger, Piglet, Eeyore, et. al.

Disney's All-Stars has a total of 832 rooms, with room for building more inns whenever the time comes for expansion. The All-Stars Hall is the main building; which houses the offices, food court, snack bar, and lounge/bar.

Disneyland Campground: Similar to Fort Wilderness at WDW, Disneyland Campground consists of 207 campsites, along with 108 cabins. This gives us a total of 315 "rooms", for lack of a better term!


The 4 hotels and the campground give us a Grand Total of 2,690 rooms/cabins/campsites combined; slightly more rooms than Disneyland's hotels in Anaheim, CA, but only about 1/12 the 30,000 rooms/cabins/campsites WDW offers within its numerous resorts! Nevertheless, I think what I came up with for a new Disney theme park resort is sufficient. If anyone has questions, comments, and/or suggestions, please feel free to post!